Series Thread 6/21-6/24 MIL @ STL

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Series Thread 6/21-6/24 MIL @ STL
Topic Started: Jul 21 2008, 09:41 AM (537 Views)
Hosscat	Jul 21 2008, 09:41 AM Post #1
Stl Cardinal Admin Posts: 4,810 Group: Admin Member #28 Joined: August 16, 2005 Favorite Cardinal Yadier Molina Hometown Herculaneum, MO	Monday: Cardinals (Joel Pineiro, 3-4, 4.52) vs. Brewers (Seth McClung, 5-5, 4.16), 6:05 p.m. CT Tuesday: Cardinals (Kyle Lohse, 12-2, 3.35) vs. Brewers (Jeff Suppan, 5-6, 4.71), 7:15 p.m. CT Wednesday: Cardinals (Braden Looper, 9-7, 4.60) vs. Brewers (CC Sabathia, 9-8, 3.51), 7:15 p.m. CT Thursday: Cardinals (Todd Wellemeyer 8-4, 4.22) vs. Brewers (Ben Sheets, 10-3, 2.88), 7:15 p.m. CT



jrod41fan	Jul 21 2008, 06:56 PM Post #2
Posts: 2,975 Group: Silver Slugger Member #141 Joined: October 21, 2005	Chris Duncan is the worst OF'er in baseball. No reason for him to be playing over Ludwick, especially against the Brewers



Williamsville13	Jul 21 2008, 08:26 PM Post #3
PM me for sigs Posts: 709 Group: Members Member #2,062 Joined: May 9, 2007 Favorite Cardinal Brendan Ryan Hometown Williamsville, Illinois	You know, for as much as people praise Ankiel in the field, he takes some of the shittiest routes to balls I have ever seen.



Hosscat	Jul 21 2008, 09:59 PM Post #4
Stl Cardinal Admin Posts: 4,810 Group: Admin Member #28 Joined: August 16, 2005 Favorite Cardinal Yadier Molina Hometown Herculaneum, MO	Well, they better take care of business with Lohse on the mound tomorrow night. We go against two tough pitchers after that. At least the Cubs lost tonight...



AWvsCBsteeeerike3	Jul 22 2008, 08:53 AM Post #5
Manager Posts: 2,409 Group: Members Member #472 Joined: November 15, 2006	Hosscat Jul 21 2008, 09:59 PM Well, they better take care of business with Lohse on the mound tomorrow night. We go against two tough pitchers after that. At least the Cubs lost tonight... Unfortunately, Chicago isn't the only team we're looking up to right now



crackout	Jul 22 2008, 08:19 PM Post #6
Minor Leaguer Posts: 96 Group: Members Member #406 Joined: October 16, 2006	Why the hell was Lohse pitching to Hardy after giving up the double to make it 3-2? He had given up 5 hits against the last 9 batters and was clearly not the same as his first 6 innings. Crazy decision that could cost the win. I am not the most patient when it comes to how long to leave a pitcher in ... am I being too harsh tonight? Edited by crackout, Jul 22 2008, 08:20 PM.



Prospect Fever	Jul 22 2008, 08:25 PM Post #7
Stl Cardinal Admin Posts: 9,542 Group: Admin Member #10 Joined: August 15, 2005	why the hell did loshe pitch so long into the 8th, what a terrible move



WalkingSnake	Jul 22 2008, 08:29 PM Post #8
Manager Posts: 1,145 Group: Members Member #343 Joined: August 28, 2006	Prospect Fever Jul 22 2008, 08:25 PM why the hell did loshe pitch so long into the 8th, what a terrible move Have you seen our bullpen? Yeah, it's kinda the worse in baseball. I don't think we had any clearcut choices to get us out of the inning. Edited by WalkingSnake, Jul 22 2008, 08:29 PM.



Prospect Fever	Jul 22 2008, 08:39 PM Post #9
Stl Cardinal Admin Posts: 9,542 Group: Admin Member #10 Joined: August 15, 2005	why the F*^# is mcclellan ever in a situation that is close to meaningful???



crackout	Jul 22 2008, 08:55 PM Post #10
Minor Leaguer Posts: 96 Group: Members Member #406 Joined: October 16, 2006	WalkingSnake Jul 22 2008, 08:29 PM Prospect Fever Jul 22 2008, 08:25 PM why the hell did loshe pitch so long into the 8th, what a terrible move Have you seen our bullpen? Yeah, it's kinda the worse in baseball. I don't think we had any clearcut choices to get us out of the inning. Brad Thompson. Considering the trouble Lohse had in the 7th, and the fact that Thompson has an excellent record against both Weeks and Hardy it would have been logical to have him working in case Lohse got in bother. The bullpen situation does suck, as McClellan showed us yet again, but leaving Lohse out there at that point gave them a better chance than not of getting the run. Edited by crackout, Jul 22 2008, 08:56 PM.



strikeout18	Jul 23 2008, 06:48 AM Post #11
Veteran Posts: 315 Group: Members Member #3,410 Joined: April 30, 2008 Favorite Cardinal Albert Pujols and Rick Ankiel Hometown Arnold,MO	I don't see why we have Kelvin in the pen and not Perez, and there's no more point in waiting for Izzy to try to come back and be an effective closer, because he will not. we gave him a chance the other night, and what do you know, he blows the save. And then he complains about not having his role back.



oeshbach	Jul 23 2008, 08:13 AM Post #12
Posts: 1,600 Group: Silver Slugger Member #227 Joined: April 24, 2006 Favorite Cardinal Adam Wainwright	strikeout18 Jul 23 2008, 06:48 AM I don't see why we have Kelvin in the pen and not Perez, and there's no more point in waiting for Izzy to try to come back and be an effective closer, because he will not. we gave him a chance the other night, and what do you know, he blows the save. And then he complains about not having his role back. I would rather see Jimenez on this team over Perez right now. Perez doesn't have a secondary pitch. I don't understand all of the hype on him right now. Until he develops at least one more pitch, he is crap.
	Quote: Two-thirds of the world is covered by water, the rest is covered by Jim Edmonds!


AWvsCBsteeeerike3	Jul 23 2008, 09:47 AM Post #13
Manager Posts: 2,409 Group: Members Member #472 Joined: November 15, 2006	oeshbach Jul 23 2008, 08:13 AM he is crap. I thought that was the requirement to be inthe Cardinals bullpen



WalkingSnake	Jul 23 2008, 12:13 PM Post #14
Manager Posts: 1,145 Group: Members Member #343 Joined: August 28, 2006	strikeout18 Jul 23 2008, 06:48 AM And then he complains about not having his role back. I haven't heard any complaining from Izzy.



oeshbach	Jul 23 2008, 12:59 PM Post #15
Posts: 1,600 Group: Silver Slugger Member #227 Joined: April 24, 2006 Favorite Cardinal Adam Wainwright	I haven't heard Izzy complain at all. I don't see how he could complain. I mean he has to know that he sucks ass right now.
	Quote: Two-thirds of the world is covered by water, the rest is covered by Jim Edmonds!


WalkingSnake	Jul 23 2008, 01:14 PM Post #16
Manager Posts: 1,145 Group: Members Member #343 Joined: August 28, 2006	oeshbach Jul 23 2008, 12:59 PM I haven't heard Izzy complain at all. I don't see how he could complain. I mean he has to know that he sucks ass right now. Yeah. AFAIK, he understands this situation the most. He's not asking to be put back in the closer's role, he's just trying his best to improve. I don't see how you can possibly rag on Izzy for complaining.



strikeout18	Jul 23 2008, 03:13 PM Post #17
Veteran Posts: 315 Group: Members Member #3,410 Joined: April 30, 2008 Favorite Cardinal Albert Pujols and Rick Ankiel Hometown Arnold,MO	I didn't mean complaining, but i heard on the radio that he said that not being in his role is "getting to his head", and his thinking more about getting 8 saves than the current situations that he is pitching in"



WalkingSnake	Jul 23 2008, 03:58 PM Post #18
Manager Posts: 1,145 Group: Members Member #343 Joined: August 28, 2006	strikeout18 Jul 23 2008, 03:13 PM I didn't mean complaining, but i heard on the radio that he said that not being in his role is "getting to his head", and his thinking more about getting 8 saves than the current situations that he is pitching in" That's understandable. I mean, his career is falling apart right before the 300 save mark, and no matter how hard he tries he just can't get back to his old form. That'd get to my head, too.



strikeout18	Jul 23 2008, 04:00 PM Post #19
Veteran Posts: 315 Group: Members Member #3,410 Joined: April 30, 2008 Favorite Cardinal Albert Pujols and Rick Ankiel Hometown Arnold,MO	True.



strikeout18	Jul 23 2008, 04:02 PM Post #20
Veteran Posts: 315 Group: Members Member #3,410 Joined: April 30, 2008 Favorite Cardinal Albert Pujols and Rick Ankiel Hometown Arnold,MO	But it's somewhat his fault that his career is falling apart, so he should get it together and try to reach 8 more saves.



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